Comments on: Maine & Nebraska Split Electoral Votes http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes This isn't a Popularity Contest Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:04:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Beez http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-3035 Beez Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:49:25 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-3035 Clarence, you write in ignorance. "The poor do not pay taxes so they will not get their taxes reduced." HAH! Tell that to the number of people who pay no taxes, but still get a check from the IRS because of the various "tax credits". Clarence, you write in ignorance. “The poor do not pay taxes so they will not get their taxes reduced.” HAH! Tell that to the number of people who pay no taxes, but still get a check from the IRS because of the various “tax credits”.

]]> By: Clarence http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-2963 Clarence Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:28:16 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-2963 John, you write in ignorance. The poor do not pay taxes so they will not get their taxes reduced. The wealthy will not get as many tax breaks as they usually do. Unless you are an extremely wealthy individual why are you complaining? If you are wealthy, why are you complaining? It is the middle class that will benefit. John, you write in ignorance. The poor do not pay taxes so they will not get their taxes reduced. The wealthy will not get as many tax breaks as they usually do. Unless you are an extremely wealthy individual why are you complaining? If you are wealthy, why are you complaining? It is the middle class that will benefit.

]]> By: SP http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-2943 SP Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:57:28 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-2943 Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed. Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence. When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight. I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful. At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed money more. I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application. Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed. Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-2807 Jeremy Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:49:09 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-2807 Hey John, The idea of a social safety net isn't to help lazy people. It is so that good, hard working people that went to college and have played by the rules don’t face situations like my wife and I have. We both have degrees and good jobs. I have called in sick once in 3 years. We're not lazy. My wife has a chronic condition and is on $1500/month medication. We aren’t sure if our $8000/year insurance will cover it next year. If not we will be ruined. And, no, we can’t shop around. No individual insurance will even cover her. But I guess if we go bankrupt because of the current system we are just lazy. Hey John,
The idea of a social safety net isn’t to help lazy people. It is so that good, hard working people that went to college and have played by the rules don’t face situations like my wife and I have. We both have degrees and good jobs. I have called in sick once in 3 years. We’re not lazy. My wife has a chronic condition and is on $1500/month medication. We aren’t sure if our $8000/year insurance will cover it next year. If not we will be ruined. And, no, we can’t shop around. No individual insurance will even cover her. But I guess if we go bankrupt because of the current system we are just lazy.

]]> By: Lance http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-2741 Lance Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:14:57 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-2741 Carrying this idea further is a bad idea. Congressional districts are redrawn by politicians every 10 years, so the party in power uses computer software to carve gerrymandered districts to maximize their representation and marginalize their opposition. The best change for America would simply be to use the popular vote tally. That way we'd be a true democracy and candidates would campaign to everyone instead of just a few in toss-up states. One wonders if all the present economic problems and America's loss in international stature could have been avoided if the popular vote was in use during the 2000 election. It's hard to imagine Gore could have done worse than Bush's record of dismal failure that has brought us from a budget surplus to the brink of a "second great depression" and trillions of dollars in debt. Carrying this idea further is a bad idea. Congressional districts are redrawn by politicians every 10 years, so the party in power uses computer software to carve gerrymandered districts to maximize their representation and marginalize their opposition. The best change for America would simply be to use the popular vote tally. That way we’d be a true democracy and candidates would campaign to everyone instead of just a few in toss-up states. One wonders if all the present economic problems and America’s loss in international stature could have been avoided if the popular vote was in use during the 2000 election. It’s hard to imagine Gore could have done worse than Bush’s record of dismal failure that has brought us from a budget surplus to the brink of a “second great depression” and trillions of dollars in debt.

]]> By: John http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-2629 John Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:17:42 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-2629 So, this is to day that the Democrats are not running any ads in her state?Inspire them like Obama? You may as well say inspire them like Chavez or Stalin. As Thomas Jefferson said, "A government large enough to give you everything you want can also take everything that you have." My wife and I work too hard to get ahead to have someone come and take more in taxes. This country was founded on the principle that if you work hard, you will get ahead, not on the principle that if you work hard you can help some lazy person get ahead. I have mowed yards, washed dishes, delivered pizzas and newspapers all as second and third jobs to be able to get where I am. If more people had the same work ethic they would not have to worry about living off my extra taxes. I choose to donate to the causes I deem to be worthy, that is a choice that I should be able to make for myself, not have Obama do it for me. So, this is to day that the Democrats are not running any ads in her state?Inspire them like Obama? You may as well say inspire them like Chavez or Stalin. As Thomas Jefferson said, “A government large enough to give you everything you want can also take everything that you have.” My wife and I work too hard to get ahead to have someone come and take more in taxes. This country was founded on the principle that if you work hard, you will get ahead, not on the principle that if you work hard you can help some lazy person get ahead. I have mowed yards, washed dishes, delivered pizzas and newspapers all as second and third jobs to be able to get where I am. If more people had the same work ethic they would not have to worry about living off my extra taxes. I choose to donate to the causes I deem to be worthy, that is a choice that I should be able to make for myself, not have Obama do it for me.

]]> By: jdp http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-2530 jdp Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:46:58 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-2530 Every four years or so, the question comes up again of getting rid of the electoral college and going to a national at-large election. Then some suggest that the current system would be more fair if all the states allocated their electoral votes as Maine and Nebraska do. Whether that would be better is an endless debate; but I think it would be cool if this site, in its interactive maps, had an option to select this EV allocation scheme. It might be tough to do for the current election season, if the poll data aren't that fine grained; but it should be possible to show the "what if" map for recent past elections. What do you think? Would that be easy to add? Thanks, jdp Every four years or so, the question comes up again of getting rid of the electoral college and going to a national at-large election. Then some suggest that the current system would be more fair if all the states allocated their electoral votes as Maine and Nebraska do. Whether that would be better is an endless debate; but I think it would be cool if this site, in its interactive maps, had an option to select this EV allocation scheme. It might be tough to do for the current election season, if the poll data aren’t that fine grained; but it should be possible to show the “what if” map for recent past elections. What do you think? Would that be easy to add?
Thanks,
jdp

]]> By: Jeff Spence http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-2524 Jeff Spence Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:19:55 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-2524 I love this idea! I didn't realize that anyone did this, but I've suggested this since the 2000 controversy! Think about it... Republicans in CA and Dems in TX must be very frustrated, as they rarely have their votes "counted", since large cities can overwhelm the state's average. California gets 55 EC votes... 53 from each congressional district, and 2 for the senators. So, each congressional district has their own presidential election, majority wins 1 EC vote. For the senators, since they are state-wide, the majority in the state would get 2 EC votes. It's the same concept as the EC we have now, but more people get their vote "counted". I love this idea! I didn’t realize that anyone did this, but I’ve suggested this since the 2000 controversy!

Think about it… Republicans in CA and Dems in TX must be very frustrated, as they rarely have their votes “counted”, since large cities can overwhelm the state’s average.

California gets 55 EC votes… 53 from each congressional district, and 2 for the senators. So, each congressional district has their own presidential election, majority wins 1 EC vote. For the senators, since they are state-wide, the majority in the state would get 2 EC votes.

It’s the same concept as the EC we have now, but more people get their vote “counted”.

]]> By: dylan http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-2505 dylan Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:51:58 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-2505 Judith said nothing about the ads being ugly BECAUSE they're republican, They are both ugly AND republican. She is just wishing that the GOP would give up on her state so she can return to her ads for swiffer and lite beer. The republican mantra of WAKE UP! isn't constructive. If you want to wake a person up, Inspire them. Like Obama does. :) Judith said nothing about the ads being ugly BECAUSE they’re republican, They are both ugly AND republican. She is just wishing that the GOP would give up on her state so she can return to her ads for swiffer and lite beer.

The republican mantra of WAKE UP! isn’t constructive. If you want to wake a person up, Inspire them. Like Obama does.
:)

]]> By: John http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes/comment-page-1#comment-2464 John Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:13:08 +0000 http://www.270towin.com/blog/new-for-2008/maine-nebraska-split-electoral-votes#comment-2464 Why is it ugly Republican ads that are beyond negative when they are Republican, but when the are Democratic they are all true? Wake up! Why is it ugly Republican ads that are beyond negative when they are Republican, but when the are Democratic they are all true? Wake up!

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