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	<title>Comments on: Latest Polls Show Tightening in Swing States</title>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.270towin.com/blog/2008-polls/latest-polls-show-tightening-in-swing-states/comment-page-1#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I don&#039;t understand is why you shifted Ohio so dramatically toward McCain, while the latest SurveyUSA and Quinnipiac polls still favor Obama. It seems a little extreme to put Ohio in the leaning McCain category when there is still a 16 point gap between the Quinnipiac and the Rasmussen.

270TOWIN:   This was a very close call, but since the other polls were several weeks old, we decided not to weight them.  This is generally the rule we&#039;ve been following, but obviously it takes on added relevance in such an important swing state.   Hopefully, there will be another Ohio poll out this week to give us a better perspective on whether our approach was correct or not.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#8217;t understand is why you shifted Ohio so dramatically toward McCain, while the latest SurveyUSA and Quinnipiac polls still favor Obama. It seems a little extreme to put Ohio in the leaning McCain category when there is still a 16 point gap between the Quinnipiac and the Rasmussen.</p>
<p>270TOWIN:   This was a very close call, but since the other polls were several weeks old, we decided not to weight them.  This is generally the rule we&#8217;ve been following, but obviously it takes on added relevance in such an important swing state.   Hopefully, there will be another Ohio poll out this week to give us a better perspective on whether our approach was correct or not.</p>
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		<title>By: quincyconscience</title>
		<link>http://www.270towin.com/blog/2008-polls/latest-polls-show-tightening-in-swing-states/comment-page-1#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>quincyconscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are your qualifications for including a poll in your state averages? I don&#039;t really have a critique to go with this, but it seems that among all news organizations and blogs that everybody has slightly different numbers. The big 2 that seem to be consistent are Rasmussen and Survey USA, but here you mention a local news source. Did you include that in Michigan polling map? How many polls include potential wild card spoilers like Nader and Barr?  Love the site, thanks.

270TOWIN:   You actually make a very good point.  We&#039;re trying to stick primarily to the big 2 you mention, but there hasn&#039;t been much out of Survey USA (at least that is publicly available) in recent weeks.   While the Rasmussen polls look reasonable, we&#039;re not sure it is a good idea to go with a single source.  So, we&#039;re trying to supplement these polls with others that we come across, particularly if they tell a different story that is more consistent with historical trends and/or they replace polls that are more than a couple weeks old.   (For those that tell a different story, like the Michigan one you mention, we use an average).   However, there isn&#039;t any great science behind it other than trying to paint a balanced picture of what is out there.  There aren&#039;t many polls that we&#039;ve seen that specifically ask about Nader or Barr, although there is sometimes an option for &#039;other&#039;.   Barr&#039;s name is most likely to show up in polls in Georgia and states with a strong Libertarian streak, like Alaska.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what are your qualifications for including a poll in your state averages? I don&#8217;t really have a critique to go with this, but it seems that among all news organizations and blogs that everybody has slightly different numbers. The big 2 that seem to be consistent are Rasmussen and Survey USA, but here you mention a local news source. Did you include that in Michigan polling map? How many polls include potential wild card spoilers like Nader and Barr?  Love the site, thanks.</p>
<p>270TOWIN:   You actually make a very good point.  We&#8217;re trying to stick primarily to the big 2 you mention, but there hasn&#8217;t been much out of Survey USA (at least that is publicly available) in recent weeks.   While the Rasmussen polls look reasonable, we&#8217;re not sure it is a good idea to go with a single source.  So, we&#8217;re trying to supplement these polls with others that we come across, particularly if they tell a different story that is more consistent with historical trends and/or they replace polls that are more than a couple weeks old.   (For those that tell a different story, like the Michigan one you mention, we use an average).   However, there isn&#8217;t any great science behind it other than trying to paint a balanced picture of what is out there.  There aren&#8217;t many polls that we&#8217;ve seen that specifically ask about Nader or Barr, although there is sometimes an option for &#8216;other&#8217;.   Barr&#8217;s name is most likely to show up in polls in Georgia and states with a strong Libertarian streak, like Alaska.</p>
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